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Re: 5" Colt Commander???

Postby grousemaster on Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:25 pm

codilly wrote:I would be pretty upset I got a gun that is out of spec.


That was sort of my first thought. I wanted a shooter....something I would carry and not mind scuffing it up. Don't know what to do with this goof ball. I'll just carry and shoot it. If it's that odd, a little honest wear isn't going to ruin it's value.
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Re: 5" Colt Commander???

Postby grousemaster on Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:54 pm

No one has any other insight? This is just a factory lemon?
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Re: 5" Colt Commander???

Postby tman on Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:58 pm

http://www.1911forums.com

There's a Colt sub-forum.
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Re: 5" Colt Commander???

Postby grousemaster on Sat Feb 16, 2013 12:38 am

tman wrote:http://www.1911forums.com

There's a Colt sub-forum.


posted thanks. I've never heard of gun mis-labeled like this...weird
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Re: 5" Colt Commander???

Postby Rip Van Winkle on Sat Feb 16, 2013 7:10 am

I'd be tempted to put it on gunbroker. You might get enough for it to buy two more.
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Re: 5" Colt Commander???

Postby LarryP on Sat Feb 16, 2013 1:17 pm

Now my kneck is kinked from viewing those pictures
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Re: 5" Colt Commander???

Postby tman on Sun Feb 17, 2013 12:31 am

Pete! Pete! Pete!


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Re: 5" Colt Commander???

Postby Snakeman721 on Sun Feb 17, 2013 3:44 pm

I would NOT shoot it. I'd gently put it back in the box and advertise it on Gunbrokers with lots of photos. You will easily get double or maybe triple what you paid for it! Then you buy another gun (or two) that you can shoot. This looks like one of those very rare mistakes similar to the "Jenny" stamp and minting mistakes for coins. Things that are not supposed to happen, but sometimes do. What you have in your hands is extremely rare and there are people out there that collect those types of things. Shooting it and wearing it in your holster will drastically reduce it's value to collectors. But, then...it's your choice.
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Re: 5" Colt Commander???

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Re: 5" Colt Commander???

Postby Snakeman721 on Sun Feb 17, 2013 5:14 pm

grousemaster wrote:Can't be THAT rare...

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIt ... =329921085


Ok, that makes two of them. Find any more? It's still a rarity...I'm sure there's more than two out there, but I doubt there are thousands of them, or even hundreds. One could look at the serial numbers of both of these guns and maybe assume that all the guns in between those numbers are also mis-stamped, I would guess.
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Re: 5" Colt Commander???

Postby Seismic Sam on Sun Feb 17, 2013 5:17 pm

grousemaster wrote:Can't be THAT rare...

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIt ... =329921085


Well, looks like the auction just started, so you can wait and see. And a buy-now price of $1795 is wayyy more than enough reason to keep it in the box for now. In addition, you need to be aware of one very nasty trick originated by the post office many years after the Inverted Jenny stamp, and they had another printing screwup of some sort and some of the stamps got out before they noticed. Well, did they just chalk it up to experience?? Hell no!! They deliberately printed a lot more of these screwed up stamps to keep them from being collectable, apparently out of pure spite. (Only a Govenrment Official would do that, right??) There were a few people smart enough to put these stamps on envelopes and send them back to their own adress, so they got the stamp with a dated postmark proving it was the original lot of stamps, and those ARE worth something. Considering the potential amount of money involved, don't assume that isn't the case here. Yes, you may have to wait and do some legwork and get serial numbers and info from Colt, but what if it turns out that IS a 5 figure gun?? You can wait a few weeks here and see what the deal is, or if it's really worth money you can pass up the chance to trade it in on a Coonan and Guncrafters 50GI and Springer loaded and enough Tupperware to fill a dishwasher and regret it for the rest of your life...
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Re: 5" Colt Commander???

Postby FJ540 on Sun Feb 17, 2013 5:20 pm

A very gentle google search shows colt having 5" commanders. Call colt with the SN and ask them what it should be marked. If they say it should be should be something else, write them the same question in email so you can get the discrepancy documented.
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Re: 5" Colt Commander???

Postby Snakeman721 on Sun Feb 17, 2013 5:20 pm

Ok, perhaps there are more than a few of these mislabeled Colts out there. Comparing serial numbers of the Gunbroker gun with the OP's gun shows a gap of 1994 possible guns out there that may also have mislabeled slides. So it could very well be a few thousand. Still a rarity, but not as much as I had thought.
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Re: 5" Colt Commander???

Postby grousemaster on Sun Feb 17, 2013 7:50 pm

FJ540 wrote:A very gentle google search shows colt having 5" commanders. Call colt with the SN and ask them what it should be marked. If they say it should be should be something else, write them the same question in email so you can get the discrepancy documented.


Where? The Commander is the 4.25" model. It would be the same as a Glock 19 being marked "26"
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Re: 5" Colt Commander???

Postby grousemaster on Sun Feb 17, 2013 7:57 pm

Seismic Sam wrote:
grousemaster wrote:Can't be THAT rare...

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIt ... =329921085


Well, looks like the auction just started, so you can wait and see. And a buy-now price of $1795 is wayyy more than enough reason to keep it in the box for now. In addition, you need to be aware of one very nasty trick originated by the post office many years after the Inverted Jenny stamp, and they had another printing screwup of some sort and some of the stamps got out before they noticed. Well, did they just chalk it up to experience?? Hell no!! They deliberately printed a lot more of these screwed up stamps to keep them from being collectable, apparently out of pure spite. (Only a Govenrment Official would do that, right??) There were a few people smart enough to put these stamps on envelopes and send them back to their own adress, so they got the stamp with a dated postmark proving it was the original lot of stamps, and those ARE worth something. Considering the potential amount of money involved, don't assume that isn't the case here. Yes, you may have to wait and do some legwork and get serial numbers and info from Colt, but what if it turns out that IS a 5 figure gun?? You can wait a few weeks here and see what the deal is, or if it's really worth money you can pass up the chance to trade it in on a Coonan and Guncrafters 50GI and Springer loaded and enough Tupperware to fill a dishwasher and regret it for the rest of your life...


Point taken. Haven't shot it yet....did buy a holster, bulk pack of .45, and some fancy new grips though . Problem is, I really wanted this gun and there's not many around at all to replace this one. Suppose I could just get a different brand.
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