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Postby Flip on Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:22 pm

Hi All,

I was reading somewhere (don't remember where) that you shouldn't shoot 147 gr 9mm through Sigs (did they say 239? don't remember). Can someone explain this to me? The guy made it sound like everyone knew this ... I don't, so someone help me out.


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Re: Sig question ...

Postby Widge on Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:25 pm

I've shot literally thousands of rounds of 147gr BHA through 9mm Sigs of all kinds without any problem at all. In fact I have about 1000 rounds in my cupboard right now. He's full of shyte.
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Re: Sig question ...

Postby Paul on Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:26 pm

Widge wrote:He's full of *******.


+1

It's absolutely fine... Shoot away.
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Re: Sig question ...

Postby westberg on Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:52 pm

It may have come from this.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=477440
I've been meaning to discuss this topic for a while, so here it goes.....

One of the initial literature guides I used regarding 9mm defense ammunition came from the website http://www.chuckhawks.com/ammo_by_anonymous.htm.

Under the 9mm section the website states the following in regard to 147 gr JHP;
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Now it is time to impart some crucial information: NEVER use 147 grain ammo in a 9mm pistol! There was a stupid fad for 147 grain hollowpoints a few years ago, and many were suckered into buying these weak, worthless and malfunction-prone rounds. I don't care what you've heard: never use any 9mm hollowpoint heavier than 125 grains. 147 grain hollowpoints often jam in many popular 9mm guns like the Browning Hi-Power, SIG, Beretta 92, S&W and Glock. Ignore the gun magazine hype and stick to what works. If you want to gamble, go to Reno. Don't gamble with your life. 147 grain ammo sucks.

Bad 9mm Loads to avoid (and certainly NEVER carry). Numbers given:

Federal Gold Medal 9mm 147 grain JHP (9MS)
Federal Hydra-Shok 9mm 147 grain JHP (P9HS2)
Winchester 147 grain 9mm Silvertip Subsonic JHP (X9MMST147)
Winchester 147 grain 9mm Super-X Subsonic (XSUB9MM)
Remington 147 grain 9mm JHP (R9MM8)
Remington 147 grain 9mm Golden Saber JHP (GS9MMC)
Remington 140 grain 9mm JHP (R9MM7)
Remington 88 grain 9mm JHP (R9MM5) This bullet is far too light.
CCI Lawman 147 grain 9mm PHP "Plated Hollow Point" (3619)

With that said could any of you please explain where/how this opinion came about regarding 147gr 9mm?

How has the 147gr 9mm evolved since whenever this article was dated?(Over the past 3-4 yrs, I've fired hundreds of 147gr WWB JHP flawlessly out of my Taurus PT92, so I'm confused on why the article says it's prone to jamming.)



Appreciate all the help and info you guys can give me!

p.s. Tried using the search function for this ? but failed to get a precise answer.
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Re: Sig question ...

Postby infidel on Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:12 pm

Early P-6 models had problems reliably feeding the heavier hollowpoints. The newer models have longer feed-ramps. I am not sure but I think 1979? might be the changeover date.
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Re: Sig question ...

Postby mitchx3 on Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:58 pm

If there is one thing I hate about the gun culture it is the playing fast and loose with facts and selling oppinion/conjecture as fact. I don't know why, no other group has literature and conversation so full of stupid stuff someone made up or generalized.
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Re: Sig question ...

Postby hammAR on Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:01 pm

Really.................have you read much about Healthcare or Climate Change or H1N1 lately.................. :lol:
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Re: Sig question ...

Postby infidel on Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:15 pm

There was a lot of talk on the P6 feed ramp issues with hollowpoints on sigforum, but I can't register there or search. But here is a replacement barrel for the P6 if anyone has an older one. Some have said the angle changed two degrees.

http://www.topgunsupply.com/sig_p225-re ... l-9mm.html
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Re: Sig question ...

Postby zachs on Thu Dec 17, 2009 11:07 pm

mitchx3 wrote:If there is one thing I hate about the gun culture it is the playing fast and loose with facts and selling oppinion/conjecture as fact. I don't know why, no other group has literature and conversation so full of stupid stuff someone made up or generalized.

you should go on a snowmobile, atv or motorcycle forums, it seems none of those groups can seperate fact or fiction
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Re: Sig question ...

Postby Widge on Fri Dec 18, 2009 12:14 am

I have a 1979 P6 that feeds everything including HPs. The feed ramp change over was 1989. The problem with some of the older barrels was the shape of the bullet which either caused it to nosedive into the ramp or not chamber fully. The profile of the 147gr seemed to be prone to the latter.

As to the rest, I repeat, it's a load of shyte.
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