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Re: Near school carry in Rochester

Postby dcam on Sun Oct 12, 2014 10:34 pm

Maybe he should take the 'good guy' approach and make an addendum to her sign listing all the criteria needed to get a carry permit. Not a felon, not a drug user, took a permit class (and any other training), backround check, paid permit fee, ect, etc. And make a point that he is exactly the kind of guy that should be carrying a gun with his kids while walking them to school. And apparently he is a family involved father, and involved in the school and community. Sounds like a great guy!

I'm annoyed that she uses the word 'we' (in the news vid, and article) when expressing what's probably 'her' opinion. Her cats could probably care less! :)

The picture of him isnt even that good, and he's not doing anything wrong in it, he's standing on the sidewalk chatting with a woman. Good grief, thats sure reason to panic. :roll:
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Re: Near school carry in Rochester

Postby RobD on Mon Oct 13, 2014 7:19 pm

20mm wrote:
bstrawse wrote:
Snakeman721 wrote:Hmmmmm, sounds like a lawsuit. I'm pretty sure someone cannot post signs with your name and photo out in public without your permission.


Please point us to a statute that says this is illegal.
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https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/?id=609.765


What was not true or defamatory about the sign?
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Re: Near school carry in Rochester

Postby ericinmn1970 on Mon Oct 13, 2014 7:57 pm

All I know is the guy whose picture was displayed is now under a microscope and he needs to tread very carefully. There's rumors that he's claiming he's been now threatened with physical harm since this story broke. I'd hate to read that he was being yelled at in the street by some uppity, angry neighborhood mothers, he then panics, and opens fire on them. He's might be riding out this ******* for a long time.
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Re: Near school carry in Rochester

Postby photogpat on Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:21 pm

Always be careful who you annoint as the standard bearer for any cause.
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Re: Near school carry in Rochester

Postby Snowgun on Mon Oct 13, 2014 10:01 pm

FTA:
"He has a 2nd Amendment right to carry the gun, I have my 1st Amendment right to say that I don't like it,” said Edson.


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Re: Near school carry in Rochester

Postby Tronster on Mon Oct 13, 2014 10:59 pm

Because the legal permit carriers are the ones to worry about. :roll:

I wonder how she would feel if someone posted a sign saying "Hey criminals, this woman is unarmed".
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Re: Near school carry in Rochester

Postby farmerj on Tue Oct 14, 2014 1:07 am

RobD wrote:


What was not true or defamatory about the sign?


09.765 CRIMINAL DEFAMATION.
§Subdivision 1.Definition. Defamatory matter is anything which exposes a person or a group, class or association to hatred, contempt, ridicule, degradation or disgrace in society, or injury to business or occupation.


Seems you could easily cover 2-3 of those there
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Re: Near school carry in Rochester

Postby CJB on Tue Oct 14, 2014 5:24 am

This is the sign poster's facebook page. https://www.facebook.com/kdedson?fref=ts

Of the 21 groups she's part of, most are very liberal. Imagine that.

EDIT: She may get away with this due to the Justification clause in the statute noted above:

Subd. 3.Justification.

Violation of subdivision 2 is justified if:

(1) the defamatory matter is true and is communicated with good motives and for justifiable ends;


It is true that he carries a gun, and one could articulate that she had good motives I suppose.
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Re: Near school carry in Rochester

Postby photogpat on Tue Oct 14, 2014 5:54 am

She's not "getting away with" anything. She has used a legally obtained photograph to articulate a true fact, which was confirmed by the subject of the photo.

Now, bigger question would be - instead of descending to her level, what response (or lack thereof) would have the best impact? (Hint: The News Cycle is already done with this one, further attention to it only makes her case for her).

Some of the commentary at the national level from people on "our side" has descended into the depths of depravity - homophobic, misogynistic, molon labe BS doesn't play well....justa saying.
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Near school carry in Rochester

Postby xd ED on Tue Oct 14, 2014 7:15 am

^^^THIS^^^

I envision community art. If every reasonable person on that block were to create a sign showing people with kids with guns... Think deer camp, hunter safety class, mom and daughter at the range, etc. and fill the block/ neighborhood with such signs. And maybe even a block party. Then sit back and let the media do its thing.
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Re: Near school carry in Rochester

Postby Thunder71 on Tue Oct 14, 2014 7:20 am

xd ED wrote: Then sit back and let the media do its thing.

Once it turns pro gun, the media's thing is to do nothing.
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Re: Near school carry in Rochester

Postby Rip Van Winkle on Tue Oct 14, 2014 7:23 am

Thunder71 wrote:
xd ED wrote: Then sit back and let the media do its thing.

Once it turns pro gun, the media's thing is to do nothing.

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Near school carry in Rochester

Postby xd ED on Tue Oct 14, 2014 8:28 am

Granted, there would not be the widespread, MSM judgmental group-think coverage, but someone would notice, especially Ms Twisted Knickers who started it.
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Re: Near school carry in Rochester

Postby RobD on Thu Oct 16, 2014 8:33 pm

farmerj wrote:
09.765 CRIMINAL DEFAMATION.
§Subdivision 1.Definition. Defamatory matter is anything which exposes a person or a group, class or association to hatred, contempt, ridicule, degradation or disgrace in society, or injury to business or occupation.


Seems you could easily cover 2-3 of those there


She could easily claim Subd. 3
(5) the communication is between persons each having an interest or duty with respect to the subject matter of the communication and is made with intent to further such interest or duty.


Not saying it's right, She is tip-towing the line.
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Re: Near school carry in Rochester

Postby CraigJS on Fri Oct 17, 2014 1:23 pm

May have missed it, HOW did she find out in the first place?
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