NOT GUILTY!

[Heffay]

Perhaps. I don't know for sure. However if someone is smoking dope, emulating the "Gangsta Life", wearing gold teeth, what are the chances they have a legal gun? Stereotyping? Yup. It is....and people do it all the time.

Yup. Much like how I imagine what you must look like.

[sgruenhagen44]

Racism is the one card they can play, and usually win with. If facts don't support your perspective, make it racial. It is a simple technique that has been used for decades now. Additionally an educated person can work with facts and make a logical decision from them, or at least see another's perspective. I don't feel the masses are working with those skills, only their emotions. I really feel our Country is broken, and our current King isn't making the situation any better. You'd have thought he would be trying to end the racism mentality. We should outlaw the word Racism, it is a offensive word. Lets take that tool away and see if they will play fair then. I read some of Marlon Wayans posts on Twitter, I hope he moves. He is just spreading the hate and disparity between our people. Trevon was a troubled kid (drugs/theft) and unfortunately messed with the wrong guy, bad ending. I still don't really understand why the Black community has stood behind this kid. In the end what did they think they would achieve or gain? Why not be mad about their culture as they put it, it isn't healthy.

Well sorry about the rant. Peace everyone.

Same deal with OJ. Why did so many people rally behind him? Who knows. O right the glove didn't fit.

[sgruenhagen44]

ok lets look at this with no hard evidence at all. And yes I am stereotyping all the way. Don't care, everyone does it so save it.

I find it much more likely that GZ questioned TM about what he was doing in the neighborhood and TM became confrontational. Rather than GZ walking out of his house and deciding that he was going to shoot the next young black male walking through his neighborhood.
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For whatever reason "Gangstas" "wiggers" (i hope you all know what that is) they feel the need to always be respected. Anything you say to them that they disagree with can be a cause for an altercation. I went to North St. Paul high school and have witnessed two females getting punched in the face by another male. Needless to say it was not the band or show choir kids. This sounds kinda like a cop out or like I'm some old guy, "Damn youngsters and there hippity hop!" But in all honesty, I have seen some real stupid fights over some real stupid stuff. It's a problem with society as a whole. When I was in high school it was cool to be black... not sure why. Listen to some LIL Wayne lyrics and tell me that he is not a retard. Sounds of machine guns in the background of the song? Really?

This is totally off topic but I thought I would throw it in because the African American community needs to quit feeling like they are owed something. And obviously this does not include all African Americans. I took an African Studies course in high school and some kid did his project on reparations. Really man? First off my family was not here until 1948 so you can save it. Welfare does enough as it is. Plus look at the Hmong community. They are thriving here in minnesota and own a lot of small businesses! How long does it take to get your $#%@ together? My family came from the most hated Nation at the time and somehow my grandfather managed to land a job as a greenskeeper and then eventually became an architect, died and left my grandma financially secure. Keep in mind these people had very very thick german accents. Grandma still does!.

In response to somebody who said the picture of him with a gun shows nothing illegal. You may be very right!! But clearly who ever owns the gun should not have it. I have quite a few guns but the only picture of me with them usually involves a dead deer.

It is sad that this became an issue about race at all. No one deserves to be shot like a dog just because they are a "gangsta" or fit the description but as one forum member put it once... "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes." I just feel like TM was trying to prove something that night, he was not going to take crap from someone questioning him.

[Hmac]

Same deal with OJ. Why did so many people rally behind him? Who knows. O right the glove didn't fit.

Right. A leather glove that had shrunken from being soaked in blood wouldn't fit over a latex rubber glove that he was wearing. That was one of the most effective lawyer-misdirection tricks ever.

[Crappy]

What lead you to the conclusion that TM was a "thug" and deserved to be killed? Was it the gold teeth? The weed habit? How do you even know the handgun is illegal? You're a piece of work.

How come you do not know possessing guns by minors is illegal? WOW maybe I have uncovered an imposter pretending to be a conservative. All your posts and your still that ignorant about firearms. Embarassing.

[Crappy]

What lead you to the conclusion that TM was a "thug" and deserved to be killed? Was it the gold teeth? The weed habit? How do you even know the handgun is illegal? You're a piece of work.

Ok. You win. Travyon was a fine upstanding individual who was wronged by an evil man. I'm sure the weed wasn't his, the gun wasn't illegal, the gold teeth were fake, his friends are very intelligent like the one that took the stand. There's no justice for Trayvon. He was just a misjudged child. Oh the horror......think of the children.

Better?

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot? Are you even a real person or just a troll? Seriously dude.....I asked a valid question and you come back with another low level answer. Just anwser the question. How do you know he had an illegal gun? What makes him a "Thug" in your mind that made it advantageous for our society to have him killed? (and what is a Thug?)

Troll? Isn't that what your are doing?

[Crappy]

How many of us can say we were fine, upstanding, law-abiding citizens at 17? I know I can't. Heck, I did worse things as a teen than the stuff Martin was caught doing. Zimmerman was the only witness to how the altercation began, and a certifiable doofus. So the state didn't have enough evidence to convict. Good for Zimmerman, but just because he has a carry permit doesn't make him a buddy or stand-up guy. One thing is certain, all this bs about Martin deserving it or the world being better off without him is low-class and reflects poorly on those who make such comments.

Martin attacked, witnesses stated this in court. Trayvon had been caught with allegedly stolen property at his school, a slim jim, and was also suspended three times for various offenses including a baggy with pot residue. The picture is drawn of a burglar, fence, drug user and or pusher who was somewhere around 6 ft tall in a neighborhood that had been burglarized late at night in the rain trespassing in peoples yards who attacked the neighborhood watch captain who had noticed someone suspicious and called the police. Zimmerman attempted observation in order to lead police to the suspect and was attacked for doing so. Trayvon attempted to grab Zimmerman's carry weapon and was shot in the ensuing struggle. Justifiable use of his weapon. Then we have an anti-gun, racists are everywhere leftists who have many political issues to push with the help of the ignorant liberal media and those who hear sound bites and get their panties in a twist. Whose side are you on? Are you against concealed carry?

[Crappy]

How many of us can say we were fine, upstanding, law-abiding citizens at 17? I know I can't. Heck, I did worse things as a teen than the stuff Martin was caught doing. Zimmerman was the only witness to how the altercation began, and a certifiable doofus. So the state didn't have enough evidence to convict. Good for Zimmerman, but just because he has a carry permit doesn't make him a buddy or stand-up guy. One thing is certain, all this bs about Martin deserving it or the world being better off without him is low-class and reflects poorly on those who make such comments.

I can! I was a veritable Boy Scout. Didn't even start drinking until 21 like a good boy.

It was sad in hindsight. Should have done something wrong at least once.

A regular Momma's boy and you claim to have been in the Navy. You must have been real popular. Your stories do not add up.

[Crappy]

Perhaps. I don't know for sure. However if someone is smoking dope, emulating the "Gangsta Life", wearing gold teeth, what are the chances they have a legal gun? Stereotyping? Yup. It is....and people do it all the time.

Yup. Much like how I imagine what you must look like.

Heffay, there's a country song about you. You run 50 miles a week yet your stumpy calves do not show that. You were in the Navy but never drank until you were twenty-one but now you claim to enjoy getting drunk up at mommies places on the lake. You claim your parents and relatives are loaded. You pretend to support the 2nd Amendment but never seem to take much of a stand for it. You rant like a lonely liberal living off a social security check living in mom's basement. You sound like someone who Dad wants to kick out but mom runs the roost. That pretty much sums you up IMHO .

[CraigJS]

Wow for a guy that only joined a couple of days ago, nice post count.. Now tell us how you really feel.

[Heffay]

Wow for a guy that only joined a couple of days ago, nice post count.. Now tell us how you really feel.

He seems to know a lot about me for someone that has been around for 2 days...

*cough cough sock puppet cough*

[XDM45]

Wow for a guy that only joined a couple of days ago, nice post count.. Now tell us how you really feel.

He seems to know a lot about me for someone that has been around for 2 days...

*cough cough sock puppet cough*

He called for a few people to be banned. In his infinite wisdom, think he'll figure out how to use the ignore feature?

[Heffay]

Wow for a guy that only joined a couple of days ago, nice post count.. Now tell us how you really feel.

He seems to know a lot about me for someone that has been around for 2 days...

*cough cough sock puppet cough*

He called for a few people to be banned. In his infinite wisdom, think he'll figure out how to use the ignore feature?

My guess is it's gunsmith's new account. Not sure if old one is banned or just a sock puppet though.

[XDM45]

My guess is it's gunsmith's new account. Not sure if old one is banned or just a sock puppet though.

Well, one of the names he called for to be banned was gunsmith, could be a way to toss people off the trail.