Keith Ellison is a angry man

[St. Olaf]

Why shouldn't gays have to get married and be as miserable as the rest of us?

[Heffay]

I don't have any problem with multiple spouses (signif others) though.

I do. One is enough.

A rephrase, I believe it's far better than gay marriage. I still think the best situation is (1) father and (1) mother.

That's great that you think that. Why do you want to use the government to enforce that on people who don't agree with you? And where do you draw the line, as far as having the government enforce believes you don't agree with upon you?

[Heffay]

I don't have any problem with multiple spouses (signif others) though.

I do. One is enough.

No kidding. Getting married has really cramped my dating life.

[infidel]

That's great that you think that. Why do you want to use the government to enforce that on people who don't agree with you? And where do you draw the line, as far as having the government enforce believes you don't agree with upon you?

It is not about the government enforcing anything. Right now, anyone can marry one other person of the opposite sex. Endorsing relationships with the potential to procreate, ensures the long term viability of the state. Homosexual relationships (unlike polygamists) are not directly punished for their actions. But where is the outcry for polygamists?

It will not be long where people will want to marry a robot. Maybe then you can marry many robots, and your retirement and Social Security payments will ensure proper robot care for perpetuity. All you have to do is change the meaning of bride and groom, we already know you like to change definitions.

[White Horseradish]

Endorsing relationships with the potential to procreate, ensures the long term viability of the state.

If that is the case, why are there no fertility tests required for a marriage license? Also, why are people past childbearing age allowed to marry? Why is a vasectomy not a barrier to marriage?

Homosexual relationships (unlike polygamists) are not directly punished for their actions. But where is the outcry for polygamists?

Have you not been reading this thread? I keep waiting for someone to tell me why polygamy is bad. It's traditional and it's in the Bible.

It will not be long where people will want to marry a robot. Maybe then you can marry many robots, and your retirement and Social Security payments will ensure proper robot care for perpetuity. All you have to do is change the meaning of bride and groom, we already know you like to change definitions.

Finally, a new whatif. I wouldn't worry about it. If artificial intelligence develops to the point of being able to enter into contracts it will try to exterminate humanity rather than marry it.

[shooter115]

How the **** did this thread turn into multiple pages of gay marriage debate? Title should have read "Keith Ellison is an angry child"

[infidel]

White Horseradish wrote: If that is the case, why are there no fertility tests required for a marriage license? Also, why are people past childbearing age allowed to marry? Why is a vasectomy not a barrier to marriage?

The point is that homosexual relationships cannot procreate. The state cannot discriminate by not allowing sterile heterosexuals to marry. The state allows man to marry woman, the state does not care if a relationship is consummated. Generally speaking, heterosexual couples have the potential to create little taxpayers. There is no discrimination with the present law.

Keith Ellison supports homosexual marriage, and yes he is angry.

[Dick Unger]

White Horseradish wrote: If that is the case, why are there no fertility tests required for a marriage license? Also, why are people past childbearing age allowed to marry? Why is a vasectomy not a barrier to marriage?

The point is that homosexual relationships cannot procreate. The state cannot discriminate by not allowing sterile heterosexuals to marry. The state allows man to marry woman, the state does not care if a relationship is consummated. Generally speaking, heterosexual couples have the potential to create little taxpayers. There is no discrimination with the present law.

Keith Ellison supports homosexual marriage, and yes he is angry.

There must be a rational basis to discriminate or give certain people special privleges. I think someone counted over 1500 different trreatments by government for married people. Single people create as many potential "little taxpayers" as married people these days, so there is really no rational basis to treat married people differently than single people.

[Heffay]

White Horseradish wrote: If that is the case, why are there no fertility tests required for a marriage license? Also, why are people past childbearing age allowed to marry? Why is a vasectomy not a barrier to marriage?

The point is that homosexual relationships cannot procreate. The state cannot discriminate by not allowing sterile heterosexuals to marry. The state allows man to marry woman, the state does not care if a relationship is consummated. Generally speaking, heterosexual couples have the potential to create little taxpayers. There is no discrimination with the present law.

Keith Ellison supports homosexual marriage, and yes he is angry.

There must be a rational basis to discriminate or give certain people special privleges. I think someone counted over 1500 different trreatments by government for married people. Single people create as many potential "little taxpayers" as married people these days, so there is really no rational basis to treat married people differently than single people.

Exactly. What does marriage have to do with making babies?

[St. Olaf]

How the **** did this thread turn into multiple pages of gay marriage debate?

I don't know why anybody else did it, but......

I did it to demonstrate that the bigots who hate Keith Ellison are the same people who hate and attempt to discriminate against gays.

And they walked right into it.

Haters will hate......they will hate gays, Muslims, feminists, immigrants, people of color and most anyone else who doesn't fit perfectly into their perfect Aryan, Christian, heterosexual, Tea Party world.

Ellison is a superb example of exactly what a politician should be--intelligent, courageous, passionate, and compassionate.

I loved the way he kicked ass on Fox News......they should get more of that.

He may want to ban a few guns, that ain't good, but hey.......999 out of 1000 ain't bad.

[White Horseradish]

The point is that homosexual relationships cannot procreate.

Neither can sterile heterosexuals. What's the difference?

Generally speaking, heterosexual couples have the potential to create little taxpayers.

Sterile people have that potential? HOW?

[sansooshooter]

How the **** did this thread turn into multiple pages of gay marriage debate?

I don't know why anybody else did it, but......

I did it to demonstrate that the bigots who hate Keith Ellison are the same people who hate and attempt to discriminate against gays.

And they walked right into it.

Haters will hate......they will hate gays, Muslims, feminists, immigrants, people of color and most anyone else who doesn't fit perfectly into their perfect Aryan, Christian, heterosexual, Tea Party world.

Ellison is a superb example of exactly what a politician should be--intelligent, courageous, passionate, and compassionate.

I loved the way he kicked ass on Fox News......they should get more of that.

He may want to ban a few guns, that ain't good, but hey.......999 out of 1000 ain't bad.

Yea no hate in your post

[White Horseradish]

Ellison is a superb example of exactly what a politician should be--intelligent, courageous, passionate, and compassionate.

That was hardly a display of intelligence. Sure, he's passionate. WTF was he passionate about? What was the point of that rant? All I got out of it was "Hannity, you suck" and "rah, rah Obama". This show of immaturity makes me doubt his ability to make rational decisions under pressure. If he explodes like that in a fairly insignificant interview, what happens when something important is on the line?

[St. Olaf]

Ellison is a superb example of exactly what a politician should be--intelligent, courageous, passionate, and compassionate.

Sure, he's passionate. WTF was he passionate about? What was the point of that rant? All I got out of it was "Hannity, you suck" and "rah, rah Obama".

The point was--Fox News LIES......constantly.

That's exactly what he said in plain English.

I suppose for those who eagerly guzzle the Fox News Kool-Aide.....that seems like ranting.

[White Horseradish]

The point was--Fox News LIES......constantly.

That's exactly what he said in plain English.

Ah, so it's "Fox, you suck". And the point of that is? To get a pat on the back from people who already support him?

Pretty cheap theater.

I suppose for those who eagerly guzzle the Fox News Kool-Aide.....that seems like ranting.

I don't watch broadcast news of any stripe. And you might want to rethink your assumptions. Just because I'm not rooting for your team doesn't mean I'm drinking someone's Kool-Aid. Take two steps back, put down the big foam finger, and look at this rationally, if you can.