Election Results

[crbutler]

You think Harris or Biden will encourage their supporters to storm the Capital?

I, for one, do not.

Well I agree they won’t do it, but then Trump officially told his people to not riot and be peaceful and yet the popular leftist refrain was Trump incited an insurrection.

Now Trump did enough crap there that I do not trust him very far, but I don’t think he led an insurrection, either.

[Holland&Holland]

To call that an insurrection is an insult.

All it was was stupidity.

[bstrawse]

Just listened to Bryan's update from MGOC. It sounds like the MN house is tied, with recounts to come. Here's hoping.

Correct, it's 67-67. I don't believe the recounts will flip any seats. The margins aren't that close.

[xd ED]

To call that an insurrection is an insult.

All it was was stupidity.

Stupidity indeed, but provoked by whom?

[Ranb]

Stupidity indeed, but provoked by whom?

Should anyone ever debase their reputation by claiming they were provoked into trespassing and committing a crime?

[xd ED]

Stupidity indeed, but provoked by whom?

Should anyone ever debase their reputation by claiming they were provoked into trespassing and committing a crime?

You tell me:

AlphaNews

Less than 24 hours after Trump becomes president-elect:

"One thing's for sure, we're going to resist this," wrote Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison posted on X

X users additionally have called for the attempted assassin who shot President Ronald Reagan in 1981, John Hinckley Jr., to carry out the same attack against Trump.

Calls against Trump come in the wake of two assassination attempts this year. The first attempt in July involved 20-year-old Thomas Matthew Crooks, who fired multiple rounds into Trump’s Pennsylvania rally, killing volunteer fire chief Corey Comperatore, injuring two others and wounding Trump’s ear.

[Ranb]

You tell me:

Instead of being evasive, perhaps you could give me your opinion on those who actually tried to stop the electoral vote count. Maybe I missed it, but I did not see anyone in your link claiming to have been provoked into actually interfering with an election.

[Holland&Holland]

You tell me:

Instead of being evasive, perhaps you could give me your opinion on those who actually tried to stop the electoral vote count. Maybe I missed it, but I did not see anyone in your link claiming to have been provoked into actually interfering with an election.

And who is being evasive? Until you hold your own accountable you can’t claim victim status.

[xd ED]

You tell me:

Instead of being evasive, perhaps you could give me your opinion on those who actually tried to stop the electoral vote count. Maybe I missed it, but I did not see anyone in your link claiming to have been provoked into actually interfering with an election.

Well there are certainly numerous eye witness accounts of agents provocateur on the scene Jan 2021.
However Those who violate the law are criminals, regardless of alleged motivations

And I for one would like to see some legitimate evidence; not third generation sound bites from sources like the VIEW', as to specifics.

A constitutional officer of the state, is charged with enforcing the law, not interjecting personal politics into the aftermath of a failed campaign. But I can understand Hakim's frustration; I'm quite sure he thought he would walz into the US Atty Gen Office.

Further, one can just as effectively provoke an insurrection passively, as well as actively.

Acts of omission - the governor, sitting back idly, when two cities were lit on fire - served to condone and incite further terrorism; far more so than any acts of commission alleged to President Trump.

The made for TV 'insurrection', paled in comparison to the collective negligent behavior of Minnesota's top dfl officials.
When will that be investigated by whoppie goldberg?

[Lumpy]

If Trump is smart— what am I saying, I mean if he listens to his advisors who are smart— he'll give executive pardons to a few Jan. 6 people who are most blatantly being charged for political reasons, explicitly NOT pardon a few guilty of ordinary criminal wrongdoing (vandalism, etc.) and for the rest leave it open that if charges continue to be pursued against them Trump will pardon them as necessary. IOW, effectively send a message while avoiding the appearance of blanketly usurping the law; and the left will acquiesce to it rather than risk having Trump in fact issue a blanket pardon.

[xd ED]

If Trump is smart— what am I saying, I mean if he listens to his advisors who are smart— he'll give executive pardons to a few Jan. 6 people who are most blatantly being charged for political reasons, explicitly NOT pardon a few guilty of ordinary criminal wrongdoing (vandalism, etc.) and for the rest leave it open that if charges continue to be pursued against them Trump will pardon them as necessary. IOW, effectively send a message while avoiding the appearance of blanketly usurping the law; and the left will acquiesce to it rather than risk having Trump in fact issue a blanket pardon.

Some of those arrested/ charged? for 6 Jan definitely need some light shined on their situations. They have quite literally been disappeared.
Those who have been legitimately convicted of crimes need to be held accountable.

I found what appears to be a transcript of president Trump's remarks on 6 Jan 2021. I've only begun to read it, but from what I've read, and glanced over, I have yet to read anything damning.

[Ranb]

Some of those arrested/ charged? for 6 Jan definitely need some light shined on their situations. They have quite literally been disappeared.
Those who have been legitimately convicted of crimes need to be held accountable.

I imagine that some of those who were charged but not arrested have disappeared, to avoid arrest. Which of those convicted have disappeared?

[bstrawse]

If Trump is smart— what am I saying, I mean if he listens to his advisors who are smart— he'll give executive pardons to a few Jan. 6 people who are most blatantly being charged for political reasons, explicitly NOT pardon a few guilty of ordinary criminal wrongdoing (vandalism, etc.) and for the rest leave it open that if charges continue to be pursued against them Trump will pardon them as necessary. IOW, effectively send a message while avoiding the appearance of blanketly usurping the law; and the left will acquiesce to it rather than risk having Trump in fact issue a blanket pardon.

Some of those arrested/ charged? for 6 Jan definitely need some light shined on their situations. They have quite literally been disappeared.
Those who have been legitimately convicted of crimes need to be held accountable.

I found what appears to be a transcript of president Trump's remarks on 6 Jan 2021. I've only begun to read it, but from what I've read, and glanced over, I have yet to read anything damning.

What do you mean they have been disappeared? Which specific cases are you referencing?

[westhope]

Will Hunter Biden be found guilty and sentenced on all counts before the Inauguration so dad can pardon him on his last day?

[bstrawse]

If Trump is smart— what am I saying, I mean if he listens to his advisors who are smart— he'll give executive pardons to a few Jan. 6 people who are most blatantly being charged for political reasons, explicitly NOT pardon a few guilty of ordinary criminal wrongdoing (vandalism, etc.) and for the rest leave it open that if charges continue to be pursued against them Trump will pardon them as necessary. IOW, effectively send a message while avoiding the appearance of blanketly usurping the law; and the left will acquiesce to it rather than risk having Trump in fact issue a blanket pardon.

Which 1/6 folks that entered the US capitol and committed crimes there have been "charged for political reasons"? Please be specific on which cases you're referencing.