Did some more thinking. Back to the "secret list without due process."
I am actually scared about what is going on. I am educated, rational, can think "critically" and have read and thought about the anti's proposals with an open mind. I'm just an simple family man.
I more or less stole what Trey Gowdy said here:
https://www.facebook.com/GunOwners/videos/10153410573131701/ and incorporated that into the major argument on car registration and "kayak and Subaru Wiper Blade registration (I bet the, ahem "honorable" Kim Norton reads this forum, Hi Kim! This is former DFLer Citiot! I've changed parties to R mostly because of you!!!! You can't delete this post HA HA! Kim, why don't you register on this site and
let's have a discussion. I can pretty much guarantee that the admins will not delete your posts)
Let's extend that to some of the Bill of Rights. What I did was simply invert the "lists" from a "you cannot list" to a "you are allowed list." Eventually, as the do-not-fly list increases to the majority of people (probably everyone on this forum), it would turn into a "government allows list".... a "permission list."
1st Amendment could look something like this:a) You can practice government approved and tracked religions as long as you register your religion and church location with the federal government.
b) You can freely speak as long as you get on the "free speakers" list
c) You can gather and create groups as long as you are on the "free assembly list" and the group is tracked by the government.
d) You can publish anything you want as long as you are on the approved "press list" and that your newspaper, blog, etc are on the approved publication list.
e) You can't address any issues with the government unless you are on the approved "petitioners list"
4th would look something like this:a) You and your house can be searched anytime unless you are on the "non unreasonable search and seizure list"
5th would look something like thisa) You are not allowed due process and any rights can be taken away at any time, unless you are on the "liberty list"
6th would look something like this:a) You can be imprisoned indefinitely for any suspicion unless you are on the "speedy and fair trial list"
b) You cannot know what you are charged with unless you are on the "know what the charges are list"
c) You cannot face your accusers unless you are on the "licensed to face accusers list"
d) You must defend yourself in court unless you are on the approved "able to hire a lawyer list" and that the lawyer is on the registered and approve barrister list.
8th would look something like this:a) You are subject to any punishment including torture unless you are on the "non-torture list." Any torture is open for use unless that particular torture is on the banned torture list.
Of course the anti's will say this is ridiculous and plug their ears and say "la la la la la la."
But once the 2A goes away, it is very realistic. For example, Germans aren't dumb. They cranked out pretty much the best engineers and scientists for the last century. They got hoodwinked by the Nazi party. If it could happen there, it can happen here.
