.223 Brass processing

[usnret]

Have you ever used the Dillion power trimmer system before? The reason I ask is because you need to run an expander after running the case through the trim sizer/cutter die.

[Retread1911]

Have you ever used the Dillion power trimmer system before? The reason I ask is because you need to run an expander after running the case through the trim sizer/cutter die.

I have loaded a few thousand rounds with mine but no I haven't been running an expander ball post trim. I think that is a good idea in the final size step. I will give it a shot.

[Dutch]

There's no need for that. I run a regular carbide sizer in station 1 on my trim toolhead, with expander. The trim die is at 6 or something. The trim die does not do anything to the neck after the case has been through a normal sizer first.

[usnret]

I have the Dillion trimmer with the sizing die set up on a separate press. Once the cases are trimmed I tumble them to get the lube off of them. When I am ready to load, ( I have 550 presses)I take them and run them through the press. I take the normal sizing die and run the decapping rod way down so that it only decaps the case and doesn't size it again, seeing as it has already been sized.

[Retread1911]

Well gang all my equipment is here and I have been processing away. . . about 7 gallons so far.

Things I have noticed.

Trim to length can be easily Dailed into a selected length, in my case I am targeting 1.750 the problem I see is with mixed head stamp the variance is .005 either way.

Head space varies with assorted brass as well but not near what I am seeing on the OAL. I seem to be able to easily get it into the dillon range on their case gauge.

At the end of the day today if I can fix some of the variance issues I am thinking the service is doable.

Any thoughts on the variances I have noticed?

[TTS]

If I sent you mixed headstamp brass I would be more than happy with a .005 variance. If I want better I need to hand trim.

[Retread1911]

If I sent you mixed headstamp brass I would be more than happy with a .005 variance. If I want better I need to hand trim.

Great feedback. I think the key to bringing this to market is up front expectations.

Thanks.

[BemidjiDweller]

I hope once you get this operation rolling the price will stay the same Also, do you deal with crimped primer pockets? I did a quick look over of the thread and didn't see if you offered something that way.

[Retread1911]

I hope once you get this operation rolling the price will stay the same Also, do you deal with crimped primer pockets? I did a quick look over of the thread and didn't see if you offered something that way.

step number two in my process swages out the crimped primer pocket.

[engnerdan]

I think I am the first to get processed brass from Retread1911.

I have not gone through it all yet but my initial impressions are that this is way better then sizing and depriming on a single stage, then swaging 1 at a time on my Dillon super swager then trimming on my RCBS trim Pro.

As retread said there is a fluctuation of a few thous we had anything from 1.748-1.755 but most where 1.750-1.752. Retread1911 showed me some brass he had done and tumbled most of the bur away from the trimming process. I will be able to report more later this week.

[Retread1911]

WOW What a difference a change in lube makes. . . .

Over the weekend I was using one shot and the press was hard but it had been 10 years since I processed and I had forgotten my lube formula. So as I am at work with my arm hurting I started thinking about if it hurt this bad last time and more importantly if is SHOULD hurt. Even though I am 10 years older the answer is NO processing brass shouldn't hurt. So I dug up my old notes mixed a quick batch of my lube and went back to work. NIGHT AND DAY difference; as a small bonus lube cost will drop by 90% as well.

And as a BIG Bonus the consistency improved from +- .005 to +- .002

What do you guys think about a 100 Count Sample bags? I bought some reasonably priced LC once fired I think I can sell for around 10-12$/100 for samples. . . Any interest in a sample?

Any feedback if 100 pieces is a big enough sample size?

[Countryfried Frank]

I would be interested in a sample.

[OldmanFCSA]

I'm still interested in a 5 to 7K sample.

Can you provide a picture or three of finished cases showing close-ups of head, neck, case-mouth, before and after ?

Can you use a RCBS Small Base Die for sizing?

You can skip final wash Op - I will do with SS Pin processing technique.

Price per Thousand cases prepped ? ____________________ (is it still $30/K)

[OldmanFCSA]

WOW What a difference a change in lube makes. . . .

Over the weekend I was using one shot and the press was hard but it had been 10 years since I processed and I had forgotten my lube formula. So as I am at work with my arm hurting I started thinking about if it hurt this bad last time and more importantly if is SHOULD hurt. Even though I am 10 years older the answer is NO processing brass shouldn't hurt. So I dug up my old notes mixed a quick batch of my lube and went back to work. NIGHT AND DAY difference; as a small bonus lube cost will drop by 90% as well.

And as a BIG Bonus the consistency improved from +- .005 to +- .002

What do you guys think about a 100 Count Sample bags? I bought some reasonably priced LC once fired I think I can sell for around 10-12$/100 for samples. . . Any interest in a sample?

Any feedback if 100 pieces is a big enough sample size?

Years ago, when I was heavily into reloading, a company made a motorized accessory drive for the Dillon 1050. If I find the info, I will forward to you. We used them on Dillon 1050's when processing 223 and 308 in mass quantities.


http://www.traphappens.com/product/PW-Dillon%201050


http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=460075


http://www.dillonprecision.com/Super_10 ... 12-427.htm


http://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=337659


http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/inde ... 78570.html


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dElp-y-jAjE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=S0J ... =endscreen

[engnerdan]

Here are auto drives that can be purchased.

http://www.reloaders.com/index.php?main ... ex&cPath=1

They got for a mint.